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		<title>By: Laura M. Brotherson</title>
		<link>http://strengtheningmarriage.com/blog/marriage/open-forum-2-discussions#comment-7727</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura M. Brotherson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 02:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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Hey Doug,

I know this is way overdue me responding to your post, but your question is a good one for others who also may have a hard time getting over any kind of anger, pain or resentment. It can be very painful to hear a spouse say such things. It reminds me of the pain a spouse might feel when their spouse has had an affair. While it may be difficult to get over, doing some free-writing about it may help process the pain and hurt in order to be able to forgive and move forward to build a stronger relationship.

I would recommend you get yourself a notebook and then spend some time having a conversation with God so that you can ask questions about the situation, express your hurt and anger, and have Heavenly Father help you understand what may have been going on for her and how you might make things better now. 

Making a place in your heart to forgive is important if you ever want to truly create the kind of relationship I imagine you may desire. You do the journal therapy with God&#039;s help and the &quot;remembering (with pain) no more&quot; can become a reality! I wish you well! Hope this will be of help!

p.s. Sorry, I didn&#039;t realize I had already responded, so hopefully this additional info will help! :)</description>
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<p>Hey Doug,</p>
<p>I know this is way overdue me responding to your post, but your question is a good one for others who also may have a hard time getting over any kind of anger, pain or resentment. It can be very painful to hear a spouse say such things. It reminds me of the pain a spouse might feel when their spouse has had an affair. While it may be difficult to get over, doing some free-writing about it may help process the pain and hurt in order to be able to forgive and move forward to build a stronger relationship.</p>
<p>I would recommend you get yourself a notebook and then spend some time having a conversation with God so that you can ask questions about the situation, express your hurt and anger, and have Heavenly Father help you understand what may have been going on for her and how you might make things better now. </p>
<p>Making a place in your heart to forgive is important if you ever want to truly create the kind of relationship I imagine you may desire. You do the journal therapy with God&#8217;s help and the &#8220;remembering (with pain) no more&#8221; can become a reality! I wish you well! Hope this will be of help!</p>
<p>p.s. Sorry, I didn&#8217;t realize I had already responded, so hopefully this additional info will help! <img src='http://strengtheningmarriage.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Geezer</title>
		<link>http://strengtheningmarriage.com/blog/marriage/open-forum-2-discussions#comment-2361</link>
		<dc:creator>Geezer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 15:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After 40 years of this I just don&#039;t have the energy left to keep trying.  I just tell myself that at this point in our lives we&#039;re too old for sex anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After 40 years of this I just don&#8217;t have the energy left to keep trying.  I just tell myself that at this point in our lives we&#8217;re too old for sex anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Arogen</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 02:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting article:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1033911/Could-make-love-husband-day-year.html?printingPage=true</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article:<br />
<a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1033911/Could-make-love-husband-day-year.html?printingPage=true" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1033911/Could-make-love-husband-day-year.html?printingPage=true</a></p>
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		<title>By: Laura M. Brotherson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura M. Brotherson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 23:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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Hi Questions,



Women can certainly be confusing. Men and women naturally think and communicate in quite different ways. Even though you may not have major problems (...yet!) it really would be helpful if you&#039;d get in to see a good therapist to help you understand each other better and work through a few things. I have some resources for finding a good counselor on my Resources Page -- under &quot;Finding a Counselor&quot; (http://www.strengtheningmarriage.com/resources.php).



I hope this is helpful. It&#039;s hard to be very helpful without knowing the specifics of how you both interact. That&#039;s where the magic of marital counseling comes in to help couples identify and change some of the ways they respond to each other.</description>
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<p>Hi Questions,</p>
<p>Women can certainly be confusing. Men and women naturally think and communicate in quite different ways. Even though you may not have major problems (&#8230;yet!) it really would be helpful if you&#8217;d get in to see a good therapist to help you understand each other better and work through a few things. I have some resources for finding a good counselor on my Resources Page &#8212; under &#8220;Finding a Counselor&#8221; (<a href="http://www.strengtheningmarriage.com/resources.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.strengtheningmarriage.com/resources.php</a>).</p>
<p>I hope this is helpful. It&#8217;s hard to be very helpful without knowing the specifics of how you both interact. That&#8217;s where the magic of marital counseling comes in to help couples identify and change some of the ways they respond to each other.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura M. Brotherson</title>
		<link>http://strengtheningmarriage.com/blog/marriage/open-forum-2-discussions#comment-2351</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura M. Brotherson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 23:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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Wow Arogen! This is an excellent analogy. I think I may share it and respond to it more fully in an upcoming Marital Intimacy Show episode if you don&#039;t mind! (http://thewinonline.com/shows/marital-intimacy-show). The concept of feeding a hungry child even if the mother isn&#039;t hungry herself is, I think, a helpful concept for many women. 

I appreciate your insightful comments and all the other insightful comments shared by many others here!</description>
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<p>Wow Arogen! This is an excellent analogy. I think I may share it and respond to it more fully in an upcoming Marital Intimacy Show episode if you don&#8217;t mind! (<a href="http://thewinonline.com/shows/marital-intimacy-show" rel="nofollow">http://thewinonline.com/shows/marital-intimacy-show</a>). The concept of feeding a hungry child even if the mother isn&#8217;t hungry herself is, I think, a helpful concept for many women. </p>
<p>I appreciate your insightful comments and all the other insightful comments shared by many others here!</p>
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		<title>By: Laura M. Brotherson</title>
		<link>http://strengtheningmarriage.com/blog/marriage/open-forum-2-discussions#comment-2350</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura M. Brotherson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 22:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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Hi Arogen,

It&#039;s a tough thing for many women to be able to fully surrender not only to the sexual experience but also to their husbands. The fear often comes from having been hurt in the past, or not having sufficient trust for a woman to fully give herself--body and soul to her husband. It&#039;s a great thing that you are reading my book together, but I think some of my Marital Intimacy Show episodes might also be particularly helpful:

#055 “Sexual Surrender” -- http://thewinonline.com/episode/sexual-surrender

#030  &quot;I Am a Sexual Being, and It’s Good–Developing a Sexual Identity&quot; -- http://thewinonline.com/episode/i-am-sexual-being-and-its-good-developing-sexual-identity

You can also see what you think might be other helpful episodes here: http://strengtheningmarriage.com/blog/marital-intimacy-show/

If you aren&#039;t successful in achieving your desired results, I&#039;d encourage you to get some professional help as well. I wish you the best in your journey together!</description>
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<p>Hi Arogen,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a tough thing for many women to be able to fully surrender not only to the sexual experience but also to their husbands. The fear often comes from having been hurt in the past, or not having sufficient trust for a woman to fully give herself&#8211;body and soul to her husband. It&#8217;s a great thing that you are reading my book together, but I think some of my Marital Intimacy Show episodes might also be particularly helpful:</p>
<p>#055 “Sexual Surrender” &#8212; <a href="http://thewinonline.com/episode/sexual-surrender" rel="nofollow">http://thewinonline.com/episode/sexual-surrender</a></p>
<p>#030  &#8220;I Am a Sexual Being, and It’s Good–Developing a Sexual Identity&#8221; &#8212; <a href="http://thewinonline.com/episode/i-am-sexual-being-and-its-good-developing-sexual-identity" rel="nofollow">http://thewinonline.com/episode/i-am-sexual-being-and-its-good-developing-sexual-identity</a></p>
<p>You can also see what you think might be other helpful episodes here: <a href="http://strengtheningmarriage.com/blog/marital-intimacy-show/" rel="nofollow">http://strengtheningmarriage.com/blog/marital-intimacy-show/</a></p>
<p>If you aren&#8217;t successful in achieving your desired results, I&#8217;d encourage you to get some professional help as well. I wish you the best in your journey together!</p>
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		<title>By: Laura M. Brotherson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura M. Brotherson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 22:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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Doug,

I apologize for being so slow to respond here. I am sorry to hear about your heartache. In marriage love can easily slip away when it is not nurtured. Loving someone is very much an action. It&#039;s more than just a feeling. If you both are not effectively nourishing your relationship it will understandably get to where one or both no longer &quot;feels&quot; that they love the other. Thankfully that can be reversed!

While it sounds like things are getting better, to overcome the hurt that occurred you may want to either talk with your spouse about it, write her a letter about your feelings, or solicit the help of a professional to help you work through some of that hurt and the history in your marriage.

Focusing your effort and energies on being the best husband you can be and learning to love your wife even better will generally be a better investment than looking for love elsewhere! I wish you both well.

Please get some help if your efforts alone are not getting you where you want to go. I have many resources for finding good counselors on my Resource Page under &quot;Finding a Counselor&quot; -- http://www.strengtheningmarriage.com/resources.php

Good luck!</description>
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<p>Doug,</p>
<p>I apologize for being so slow to respond here. I am sorry to hear about your heartache. In marriage love can easily slip away when it is not nurtured. Loving someone is very much an action. It&#8217;s more than just a feeling. If you both are not effectively nourishing your relationship it will understandably get to where one or both no longer &#8220;feels&#8221; that they love the other. Thankfully that can be reversed!</p>
<p>While it sounds like things are getting better, to overcome the hurt that occurred you may want to either talk with your spouse about it, write her a letter about your feelings, or solicit the help of a professional to help you work through some of that hurt and the history in your marriage.</p>
<p>Focusing your effort and energies on being the best husband you can be and learning to love your wife even better will generally be a better investment than looking for love elsewhere! I wish you both well.</p>
<p>Please get some help if your efforts alone are not getting you where you want to go. I have many resources for finding good counselors on my Resource Page under &#8220;Finding a Counselor&#8221; &#8212; <a href="http://www.strengtheningmarriage.com/resources.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.strengtheningmarriage.com/resources.php</a></p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Laura M. Brotherson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura M. Brotherson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 22:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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Xenon,



These are wonderful ideas and great efforts on your part to take good care of your wife and make sure she feels loved. This is wonderful to see! I imagine your wife notices your efforts and greatly appreciates you!</description>
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<p>Xenon,</p>
<p>These are wonderful ideas and great efforts on your part to take good care of your wife and make sure she feels loved. This is wonderful to see! I imagine your wife notices your efforts and greatly appreciates you!</p>
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		<title>By: antenney</title>
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		<dc:creator>antenney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2011 03:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know all too well about that &quot;more art than science&quot; thing! Thank you for an another resource--I plan on looking into anything and everything suggested!  I do wish you and your son all the best.  Mental illness is so hard.

My husband has had absolutely 0 desire for pretty much our entire relationship, including dating.  I just didn&#039;t recognize it for what it was at the time as he was my first and only boyfriend, and we did practice abstinence.  In fact, I don&#039;t think even he realized how deeply his inhibitions (or whatever it is) run until we got married.  He has had this issue during the times he was on medication but also when he was not.  I&#039;m really working on trying to accept that answers may not come in this lifetime without giving up all hope at the same time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know all too well about that &#8220;more art than science&#8221; thing! Thank you for an another resource&#8211;I plan on looking into anything and everything suggested!  I do wish you and your son all the best.  Mental illness is so hard.</p>
<p>My husband has had absolutely 0 desire for pretty much our entire relationship, including dating.  I just didn&#8217;t recognize it for what it was at the time as he was my first and only boyfriend, and we did practice abstinence.  In fact, I don&#8217;t think even he realized how deeply his inhibitions (or whatever it is) run until we got married.  He has had this issue during the times he was on medication but also when he was not.  I&#8217;m really working on trying to accept that answers may not come in this lifetime without giving up all hope at the same time.</p>
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		<title>By: Arogen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arogen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2011 03:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have an adult son with mental health issues (bi-polar).  My experience in that area has convinced me that diagnosing mental health issues is more art then science but that is another story.

It might be the medication(s) your husband takes that is affecting his libido, or just the fact that having this illness makes him feel bad about himself creating a mental block.  Depression can kill the desire for intimacy but in manic states a person usually goes too far the other way being promiscuous and taking risks (unprotected sex with strangers etc.)

I hope you find the help you need, your husband too.  If it&#039;s the medication or the mental illness itself, you might want to look into this: http://www.truehope.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an adult son with mental health issues (bi-polar).  My experience in that area has convinced me that diagnosing mental health issues is more art then science but that is another story.</p>
<p>It might be the medication(s) your husband takes that is affecting his libido, or just the fact that having this illness makes him feel bad about himself creating a mental block.  Depression can kill the desire for intimacy but in manic states a person usually goes too far the other way being promiscuous and taking risks (unprotected sex with strangers etc.)</p>
<p>I hope you find the help you need, your husband too.  If it&#8217;s the medication or the mental illness itself, you might want to look into this: <a href="http://www.truehope.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.truehope.com/</a></p>
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