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		<title>By: JL</title>
		<link>http://strengtheningmarriage.com/blog/sex/a-taste-of-what-men-feel/#comment-254</link>
		<author>JL</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 18:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is hard to be rejected.  I have been rejected many times over the years but I have also been accepted many times over the years.  I have tried to tone down my desires for frequency and we have a good time sexually usually once a week.</description>
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		<title>By: landschooner</title>
		<link>http://strengtheningmarriage.com/blog/sex/a-taste-of-what-men-feel/#comment-244</link>
		<author>landschooner</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 21:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to minimize what some of these women are feeling, but to burst into tears after one rejection...Try 17 years of rejection, having your wife say no 19 times out of twenty, for various reasons year after year after year. I don't think most women have any idea what that kind of rejection is like. I don't know; Maybe they do with other needs that might not be met.

I love my wife and she really is my best friend, but those feelings are balanced and often trumped my by despair and anger. I'm trying to move that into acceptance and resignation not very successfully as yet. It's like the only way to shut that down is to shut everything down. Any real discussion of the matter on my part is met with anger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to minimize what some of these women are feeling, but to burst into tears after one rejection&#8230;Try 17 years of rejection, having your wife say no 19 times out of twenty, for various reasons year after year after year. I don&#8217;t think most women have any idea what that kind of rejection is like. I don&#8217;t know; Maybe they do with other needs that might not be met.</p>
<p>I love my wife and she really is my best friend, but those feelings are balanced and often trumped my by despair and anger. I&#8217;m trying to move that into acceptance and resignation not very successfully as yet. It&#8217;s like the only way to shut that down is to shut everything down. Any real discussion of the matter on my part is met with anger.</p>
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		<title>By: UnderTheSun</title>
		<link>http://strengtheningmarriage.com/blog/sex/a-taste-of-what-men-feel/#comment-168</link>
		<author>UnderTheSun</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 22:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a fantasy.

I have a fantasy about what it's going to be like in heaven. Some stories about heaven (and hell) suggest that it will be tailored to address the predominant shorcomings experienced in each individuals mortal life. Maybe God will gather together all the people who are writing in response to this post. He'll gather up all the women who have a healthy libido and are longing to be loved. Then He'll gather up me and all the other men trapped in a desert of a marriage, desperate for even an hour of intimacy... 

Then he'll take all these people and place them together on a small island paraside somewhere. And then, well, anything will be fair game :-)

Your first reaction, if it's like mine, is "oh my goodness, shame on you for even thinking something like that!" But isn't that the same inhibition that feeds the taboo that there's something "sinful" about sex and pleasure? Do we really understand that God wants the best for us in every way, even though our mortal lives "under the sun" require that much of it be deferred for the Great Beyond? Look at the Garden of Eden! "Since he did not spare even his own Son but gave him up for us all, won’t he also give us everything else?" (Romans 8:32) 

So whether my fantasy is pure conjecture is anyone's guess. But fortunately, the goodness of the heart of God is a sure thing. See you there!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a fantasy.</p>
<p>I have a fantasy about what it&#8217;s going to be like in heaven. Some stories about heaven (and hell) suggest that it will be tailored to address the predominant shorcomings experienced in each individuals mortal life. Maybe God will gather together all the people who are writing in response to this post. He&#8217;ll gather up all the women who have a healthy libido and are longing to be loved. Then He&#8217;ll gather up me and all the other men trapped in a desert of a marriage, desperate for even an hour of intimacy&#8230; </p>
<p>Then he&#8217;ll take all these people and place them together on a small island paraside somewhere. And then, well, anything will be fair game <img src='http://strengtheningmarriage.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Your first reaction, if it&#8217;s like mine, is &#8220;oh my goodness, shame on you for even thinking something like that!&#8221; But isn&#8217;t that the same inhibition that feeds the taboo that there&#8217;s something &#8220;sinful&#8221; about sex and pleasure? Do we really understand that God wants the best for us in every way, even though our mortal lives &#8220;under the sun&#8221; require that much of it be deferred for the Great Beyond? Look at the Garden of Eden! &#8220;Since he did not spare even his own Son but gave him up for us all, won’t he also give us everything else?&#8221; (Romans 8:32) </p>
<p>So whether my fantasy is pure conjecture is anyone&#8217;s guess. But fortunately, the goodness of the heart of God is a sure thing. See you there!</p>
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		<title>By: listening</title>
		<link>http://strengtheningmarriage.com/blog/sex/a-taste-of-what-men-feel/#comment-141</link>
		<author>listening</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 02:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your comment, it gave me comfort to know that I'm not the only woman who feels this way.  It's really painful and each repeat offense just heightens the rejection I feel.  I almost just want to shut down so I can protect myself from getting hurt again.  I've openly discussed this with my husband and hs says sorry (each time I tell him) but it hurts to always be the one to make the first move and also to be turned down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your comment, it gave me comfort to know that I&#8217;m not the only woman who feels this way.  It&#8217;s really painful and each repeat offense just heightens the rejection I feel.  I almost just want to shut down so I can protect myself from getting hurt again.  I&#8217;ve openly discussed this with my husband and hs says sorry (each time I tell him) but it hurts to always be the one to make the first move and also to be turned down.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura M. Brotherson</title>
		<link>http://strengtheningmarriage.com/blog/sex/a-taste-of-what-men-feel/#comment-123</link>
		<author>Laura M. Brotherson</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 06:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;p&gt;Hello msnobody,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You are right on the money that that comment could have read, "I just had a twinge of what it must feel like to be a PERSON with an uninterested SPOUSE." Your comments are excellent in highlighting the fact that it's not always the wife that's not interested in sex. Your situation is becoming more and more common, or is now at least coming to light more and more. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I mention some of the potential causes of a lack of sexual interest in men in my reply to "dansprettygirl" below.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I can see the real frustration it can cause when we speak of sexual desire issues only in terms of the stereotypes. Those I have worked with in this situation do feel an extra degree of frustration, not only at the situation they find themselves in, but also in that it seems to be less common and even less talked about! I hope your comments and others here will help everyone see the realities that some couples face in their intimate relationships.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Hello msnobody,</p>
<p>You are right on the money that that comment could have read, &#8220;I just had a twinge of what it must feel like to be a PERSON with an uninterested SPOUSE.&#8221; Your comments are excellent in highlighting the fact that it&#8217;s not always the wife that&#8217;s not interested in sex. Your situation is becoming more and more common, or is now at least coming to light more and more. </p>
<p>I mention some of the potential causes of a lack of sexual interest in men in my reply to &#8220;dansprettygirl&#8221; below.</p>
<p>I can see the real frustration it can cause when we speak of sexual desire issues only in terms of the stereotypes. Those I have worked with in this situation do feel an extra degree of frustration, not only at the situation they find themselves in, but also in that it seems to be less common and even less talked about! I hope your comments and others here will help everyone see the realities that some couples face in their intimate relationships.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura M. Brotherson</title>
		<link>http://strengtheningmarriage.com/blog/sex/a-taste-of-what-men-feel/#comment-122</link>
		<author>Laura M. Brotherson</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 06:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://strengtheningmarriage.com/blog/wp-content/themes/wp-multiflex-3-10/images/Laura125.jpg" border="0" height="164px" width="125px"/&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hi dansprettygirl,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yes, there are many wives that find themselves in the higher-desire position in their marriages. When others have written to me about this situation, I have often directed them to consider themselves in the position of what is usually the husband (or stereotypically the husband) as the higher-desire spouse, when seeking to apply the suggestions I teach throughout my book. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For better or for worse that angle was taken in the book in an attempt to go with the most common scenario to try to keep the writing as easy to follow as possible. I realize we must find a better way to address the spontaneous-desire vs. cultivated-desire scenario without making either spouse feel like an anomoly.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You might also want to read Michele Weiner-Davis's book, "&lt;a href="http://www.divorcebusting.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&#038;Product_Code=SSM&#038;Category_Code=B&#038;Product_Count=1" rel="nofollow"&gt;The Sex Starved Marriage&lt;/a&gt;," which I reference in my book. And stay tuned for her upcoming book, "&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0743266269?tag=divorcebusting&#038;camp=14573&#038;creative=327641&#038;linkCode=as1&#038;creativeASIN=0743266269&#038;adid=046B2SNRSFZ3H6EYYXZZ&#038;" rel="nofollow"&gt;The Sex-Starved Wife&lt;/a&gt;." It's becoming more and more common that women are the ones that like sex, while the husband shies away for various reasons. You are definitely not alone.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; I address this issue somewhat in one of our Q&#038;As -- "&lt;a href="http://www.strengtheningmarriage.com/qa.php#QA3" rel="nofollow"&gt;Husband dislikes lovemaking&lt;/a&gt;". In this post I address some of the common causes of low sexual desire in men:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(1) Low tolerance for the inherent anxiety-producing nature of intimacy&lt;br /&gt;
(2) Unresolved conflict in the relationship&lt;br /&gt;
(3) Negative sexual conditioning and inhibitions, etc. regarding sex &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;...and I would add that pornography can also play a role in some situations.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I do think this is a situation that should be addressed. If you can't make progress between yourselves, then I'd definitely suggest seeking professional assistance, even if he won't go with you at first. There are things either spouse can learn to do to change the dynamics of any relationship for the better.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Hi dansprettygirl,</p>
<p>Yes, there are many wives that find themselves in the higher-desire position in their marriages. When others have written to me about this situation, I have often directed them to consider themselves in the position of what is usually the husband (or stereotypically the husband) as the higher-desire spouse, when seeking to apply the suggestions I teach throughout my book. </p>
<p>For better or for worse that angle was taken in the book in an attempt to go with the most common scenario to try to keep the writing as easy to follow as possible. I realize we must find a better way to address the spontaneous-desire vs. cultivated-desire scenario without making either spouse feel like an anomoly.  </p>
<p>You might also want to read Michele Weiner-Davis&#8217;s book, &#8220;<a href="http://www.divorcebusting.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&#038;Product_Code=SSM&#038;Category_Code=B&#038;Product_Count=1" rel="nofollow">The Sex Starved Marriage</a>,&#8221; which I reference in my book. And stay tuned for her upcoming book, &#8220;<a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0743266269?tag=divorcebusting&#038;camp=14573&#038;creative=327641&#038;linkCode=as1&#038;creativeASIN=0743266269&#038;adid=046B2SNRSFZ3H6EYYXZZ&#038;" rel="nofollow">The Sex-Starved Wife</a>.&#8221; It&#8217;s becoming more and more common that women are the ones that like sex, while the husband shies away for various reasons. You are definitely not alone.</p>
<p> I address this issue somewhat in one of our Q&#038;As &#8212; &#8220;<a href="http://www.strengtheningmarriage.com/qa.php#QA3" rel="nofollow">Husband dislikes lovemaking</a>&#8220;. In this post I address some of the common causes of low sexual desire in men:</p>
<p>(1) Low tolerance for the inherent anxiety-producing nature of intimacy<br />
(2) Unresolved conflict in the relationship<br />
(3) Negative sexual conditioning and inhibitions, etc. regarding sex </p>
<p>&#8230;and I would add that pornography can also play a role in some situations.</p>
<p>I do think this is a situation that should be addressed. If you can&#8217;t make progress between yourselves, then I&#8217;d definitely suggest seeking professional assistance, even if he won&#8217;t go with you at first. There are things either spouse can learn to do to change the dynamics of any relationship for the better.</p>
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		<title>By: arjw</title>
		<link>http://strengtheningmarriage.com/blog/sex/a-taste-of-what-men-feel/#comment-120</link>
		<author>arjw</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 16:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too am a wife who has always had higher desire than her husband and it has been a hard thing to deal with.  I am attractive, take good care of myself, am kind to him, always willing, and have never tuned down any of his advances.  He also has had a pornography problem that he is now struggling to overcome. I can't tell you of the rejection I feel knowing he chooses porn over me. So I just wanted to make aware that a wife who doesn't put out isn't the sole cause of men looking at porn as was stated. As I have said, I have always been willing and have have a far higher libido than my husband.  A porn addiction is basically a self medication for other underlying issues he may be struggling with and I have to constantly remind myself not to take in personally.  

But yes, it should be made aware that there are many marriages out there that are backwards from the so-called "norm" where us women have the higher desire than our husbands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too am a wife who has always had higher desire than her husband and it has been a hard thing to deal with.  I am attractive, take good care of myself, am kind to him, always willing, and have never tuned down any of his advances.  He also has had a pornography problem that he is now struggling to overcome. I can&#8217;t tell you of the rejection I feel knowing he chooses porn over me. So I just wanted to make aware that a wife who doesn&#8217;t put out isn&#8217;t the sole cause of men looking at porn as was stated. As I have said, I have always been willing and have have a far higher libido than my husband.  A porn addiction is basically a self medication for other underlying issues he may be struggling with and I have to constantly remind myself not to take in personally.  </p>
<p>But yes, it should be made aware that there are many marriages out there that are backwards from the so-called &#8220;norm&#8221; where us women have the higher desire than our husbands.</p>
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		<title>By: kristyluc</title>
		<link>http://strengtheningmarriage.com/blog/sex/a-taste-of-what-men-feel/#comment-116</link>
		<author>kristyluc</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 04:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say that I was pretty shocked when I read this post. I had a very similiar experience a few nights ago. My husband was sitting on the bed reading when I suddenly had the urge to get something started. I playfully took his book away and started kissing him. He acted a little annoyed and said, "I need to wake up early." We said our nightly prayer together and I went out of the room. As soon as I reached the bottom of the stairs, I burst into tears. I couldn't beleive how hurt and rejected I felt. I truly appreciate the insight given in this post. At the time, I didn't think about it that way... that that's the way men feel when we reject them. I think from now on I will be a little more sensitive. Thanks for sharing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say that I was pretty shocked when I read this post. I had a very similiar experience a few nights ago. My husband was sitting on the bed reading when I suddenly had the urge to get something started. I playfully took his book away and started kissing him. He acted a little annoyed and said, &#8220;I need to wake up early.&#8221; We said our nightly prayer together and I went out of the room. As soon as I reached the bottom of the stairs, I burst into tears. I couldn&#8217;t beleive how hurt and rejected I felt. I truly appreciate the insight given in this post. At the time, I didn&#8217;t think about it that way&#8230; that that&#8217;s the way men feel when we reject them. I think from now on I will be a little more sensitive. Thanks for sharing!</p>
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		<title>By: dansprettygirl</title>
		<link>http://strengtheningmarriage.com/blog/sex/a-taste-of-what-men-feel/#comment-114</link>
		<author>dansprettygirl</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 22:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so glad to hear I am not the only one in a situation of having a higher desire than my husband.  It's just unheard of; the story always goes the same way.  My story is backwards.  I have searched and searched hoping that I wasn't the only one; that there wasn't something wrong with me.  I don't know what to do, there is no literature, no life stories telling how to overcome such a challenge.  I try not to care, to tell myself he shows his love for me in other ways; but I just can't get over it.  What's a girl to do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so glad to hear I am not the only one in a situation of having a higher desire than my husband.  It&#8217;s just unheard of; the story always goes the same way.  My story is backwards.  I have searched and searched hoping that I wasn&#8217;t the only one; that there wasn&#8217;t something wrong with me.  I don&#8217;t know what to do, there is no literature, no life stories telling how to overcome such a challenge.  I try not to care, to tell myself he shows his love for me in other ways; but I just can&#8217;t get over it.  What&#8217;s a girl to do?</p>
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		<title>By: QuestionMark</title>
		<link>http://strengtheningmarriage.com/blog/sex/a-taste-of-what-men-feel/#comment-107</link>
		<author>QuestionMark</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 23:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's so odd to me to think that there are couples with the wife being high-desire and the husband low-desire.  It's completely contrary to the only situation I've known.  And I think that's why people make assumptions when it comes to sexual relationships.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s so odd to me to think that there are couples with the wife being high-desire and the husband low-desire.  It&#8217;s completely contrary to the only situation I&#8217;ve known.  And I think that&#8217;s why people make assumptions when it comes to sexual relationships.</p>
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